Discussion:
Replacement for Flash?
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Doug Laidlaw
2017-03-22 07:44:09 UTC
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The Flash plugin has been found to be full of security
holes. Firefox won't let me use it unless I insist. Is there
a replacement? I think there is gnash, and Cauldron
were trying to install something alongside Flash.
Dependency conflicts prevented it for a few days.

Doug.
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William Unruh
2017-03-22 08:02:18 UTC
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Post by Doug Laidlaw
The Flash plugin has been found to be full of security
holes. Firefox won't let me use it unless I insist. Is there
a replacement? I think there is gnash, and Cauldron
were trying to install something alongside Flash.
Dependency conflicts prevented it for a few days.
I think Adobe has abandoned flash for Linux so no upgrades.
Chrome however does have a special relation ship which Adobe, and
apparently it still gets flash updates.
Post by Doug Laidlaw
Doug.
Bit Twister
2017-03-22 08:33:15 UTC
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Post by William Unruh
Post by Doug Laidlaw
The Flash plugin has been found to be full of security
holes. Firefox won't let me use it unless I insist. Is there
a replacement? I think there is gnash, and Cauldron
were trying to install something alongside Flash.
Dependency conflicts prevented it for a few days.
I think Adobe has abandoned flash for Linux so no upgrades.
Yep, that was correct for awhile. They are back to releasing updates
for it.

Best suggestion I have for Doug is to open a bug report.
Other option is pull/insert the the rpm from Adobe.
Doug Laidlaw
2017-03-29 10:44:49 UTC
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Post by Bit Twister
Post by William Unruh
I think Adobe has abandoned flash for Linux so no upgrades.
Yep, that was correct for awhile. They are back to releasing updates
for it.
Best suggestion I have for Doug is to open a bug report.
Other option is pull/insert the the rpm from Adobe.
I got it wrong. The latest version is installed in Cauldron.

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Doug Laidlaw
2017-03-22 10:14:04 UTC
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Post by William Unruh
Post by Doug Laidlaw
The Flash plugin has been found to be full of security
holes. Firefox won't let me use it unless I insist. Is there
a replacement? I think there is gnash, and Cauldron
were trying to install something alongside Flash.
Dependency conflicts prevented it for a few days.
I think Adobe has abandoned flash for Linux so no upgrades.
Chrome however does have a special relation ship which Adobe, and
apparently it still gets flash updates.
Post by Doug Laidlaw
Doug.
Yes, every time Adobe updates Flash, Chrome releases an update of
the browser, with Flash integrated. But I can't type an URL in
Chrome, without its becoming a Google search instead.
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William Unruh
2017-03-22 15:04:13 UTC
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Post by Doug Laidlaw
Post by William Unruh
Post by Doug Laidlaw
The Flash plugin has been found to be full of security
holes. Firefox won't let me use it unless I insist. Is there
a replacement? I think there is gnash, and Cauldron
were trying to install something alongside Flash.
Dependency conflicts prevented it for a few days.
I think Adobe has abandoned flash for Linux so no upgrades.
Chrome however does have a special relation ship which Adobe, and
apparently it still gets flash updates.
Post by Doug Laidlaw
Doug.
Yes, every time Adobe updates Flash, Chrome releases an update of
the browser, with Flash integrated. But I can't type an URL in
Chrome, without its becoming a Google search instead.
Hmm. Ihave no such trouble. If it is a valid URL, chrome connects. If
not it does a google search.
Aragorn
2017-03-22 14:33:11 UTC
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On Wednesday 22 March 2017 09:02, William Unruh conveyed the following
to alt.os.linux.mageia...
Post by William Unruh
Post by Doug Laidlaw
The Flash plugin has been found to be full of security
holes. Firefox won't let me use it unless I insist. Is there
a replacement? I think there is gnash, and Cauldron
were trying to install something alongside Flash.
Dependency conflicts prevented it for a few days.
I think Adobe has abandoned flash for Linux so no upgrades.
That was true until very recently. There *is* an updated Flash for
GNU/Linux from Adobe now, ever since about a month ago. PCLinuxOS has
it in its package list.

They've decided that they can't ignore GNU/Linux completely anymore,
especially not now that major websites like YouTube have switched to
HTML5 by default, which no longer uses Flash.
Post by William Unruh
Chrome however does have a special relation ship which Adobe, and
apparently it still gets flash updates.
The Flash player embedded in Google Chrome is called PepperFlash, and
you can install that separately in other browsers as well if you
download the PepperFlash package from the repositories.
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TJ
2017-03-22 16:47:31 UTC
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Post by William Unruh
Post by Doug Laidlaw
The Flash plugin has been found to be full of security
holes. Firefox won't let me use it unless I insist. Is there
a replacement? I think there is gnash, and Cauldron
were trying to install something alongside Flash.
Dependency conflicts prevented it for a few days.
I think Adobe has abandoned flash for Linux so no upgrades.
Chrome however does have a special relation ship which Adobe, and
apparently it still gets flash updates.
Adobe started issuing Flash upgrades, a few months ago, in both NPAPI
(Firefox) and PPAPI (Chrome) versions, with version 24.x.x. Just a few
days ago, Adobe released version 25.x.x. When Firefox detected a version
increase like that, it automatically generated the error message.

If you are running an updated Cauldron, and got your Flash plugin from
the repos, you would have the updated version. (Be aware that the
Cauldron version is the PPAPI "Pepper" version, and will install the
freshplayer plugin to run it with Firefox.)

If you are running Mageia 5, and you installed the player from the
repos, the latest version there is still 24.0.0.194. I don't see version
25.x.x in the list of packages released to QA for testing, so for some
reason it must not be ready yet. No doubt it is in the pipeline. If you
do not wish to wait, see the next paragraph.

If you downloaded the player directly from Adobe, you have to download
and install the proper update yourself. It isn't difficult, but you will
have to keep track of when new updates come along yourself.

TJ
TJ
2017-03-22 17:52:23 UTC
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Post by TJ
Post by William Unruh
Post by Doug Laidlaw
The Flash plugin has been found to be full of security
holes. Firefox won't let me use it unless I insist. Is there
a replacement? I think there is gnash, and Cauldron
were trying to install something alongside Flash.
Dependency conflicts prevented it for a few days.
I think Adobe has abandoned flash for Linux so no upgrades.
Chrome however does have a special relation ship which Adobe, and
apparently it still gets flash updates.
Adobe started issuing Flash upgrades, a few months ago, in both NPAPI
(Firefox) and PPAPI (Chrome) versions, with version 24.x.x. Just a few
days ago, Adobe released version 25.x.x. When Firefox detected a version
increase like that, it automatically generated the error message.
If you are running an updated Cauldron, and got your Flash plugin from
the repos, you would have the updated version. (Be aware that the
Cauldron version is the PPAPI "Pepper" version, and will install the
freshplayer plugin to run it with Firefox.)
If you are running Mageia 5, and you installed the player from the
repos, the latest version there is still 24.0.0.194. I don't see version
25.x.x in the list of packages released to QA for testing, so for some
reason it must not be ready yet. No doubt it is in the pipeline. If you
do not wish to wait, see the next paragraph.
Oops. Wrong version number. The current version on the Mageia 5 repos is
24.0.0.221. Still out-of-date, but not as far. Sorry about that...
Post by TJ
If you downloaded the player directly from Adobe, you have to download
and install the proper update yourself. It isn't difficult, but you will
have to keep track of when new updates come along yourself.
TJ
TJ
Doug Laidlaw
2017-03-25 13:15:16 UTC
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Post by TJ
Post by TJ
Post by William Unruh
Post by Doug Laidlaw
The Flash plugin has been found to be full of security
holes. Firefox won't let me use it unless I insist. Is there
a replacement? I think there is gnash, and Cauldron
were trying to install something alongside Flash.
Dependency conflicts prevented it for a few days.
I think Adobe has abandoned flash for Linux so no upgrades.
Chrome however does have a special relation ship which Adobe, and
apparently it still gets flash updates.
Adobe started issuing Flash upgrades, a few months ago, in both NPAPI
(Firefox) and PPAPI (Chrome) versions, with version 24.x.x. Just a few
days ago, Adobe released version 25.x.x. When Firefox detected a version
increase like that, it automatically generated the error message.
If you are running an updated Cauldron, and got your Flash plugin from
the repos, you would have the updated version. (Be aware that the
Cauldron version is the PPAPI "Pepper" version, and will install the
freshplayer plugin to run it with Firefox.)
If you are running Mageia 5, and you installed the player from the
repos, the latest version there is still 24.0.0.194. I don't see version
25.x.x in the list of packages released to QA for testing, so for some
reason it must not be ready yet. No doubt it is in the pipeline. If you
do not wish to wait, see the next paragraph.
Oops. Wrong version number. The current version on the Mageia 5 repos is
24.0.0.221. Still out-of-date, but not as far. Sorry about that...
Post by TJ
If you downloaded the player directly from Adobe, you have to download
and install the proper update yourself. It isn't difficult, but you will
have to keep track of when new updates come along yourself.
TJ
TJ
I tried that. The Adobe site said there would be no more updates.
And yet, Flash seems to be everywhere.

My mind has gone AWOL again. There is a format put out by iTunes,
I think. I recall installing it to have "guided tours" on the
Web. I could
move around a building as if I were there. It was used extensively on
Second Life, giving "live" media on residential TV, for example,
but was
withdrawn after it was found to be full of security holes.

Doug.
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TJ
2017-03-26 01:15:00 UTC
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Post by Doug Laidlaw
Post by TJ
Post by TJ
Adobe started issuing Flash upgrades, a few months ago, in both NPAPI
(Firefox) and PPAPI (Chrome) versions, with version 24.x.x. Just a few
days ago, Adobe released version 25.x.x. When Firefox detected a version
increase like that, it automatically generated the error message.
If you are running an updated Cauldron, and got your Flash plugin from
the repos, you would have the updated version. (Be aware that the
Cauldron version is the PPAPI "Pepper" version, and will install the
freshplayer plugin to run it with Firefox.)
If you are running Mageia 5, and you installed the player from the
repos, the latest version there is still 24.0.0.194. I don't see version
25.x.x in the list of packages released to QA for testing, so for some
reason it must not be ready yet. No doubt it is in the pipeline. If you
do not wish to wait, see the next paragraph.
Oops. Wrong version number. The current version on the Mageia 5 repos is
24.0.0.221. Still out-of-date, but not as far. Sorry about that...
Post by TJ
If you downloaded the player directly from Adobe, you have to download
and install the proper update yourself. It isn't difficult, but you will
have to keep track of when new updates come along yourself.
TJ
I tried that. The Adobe site said there would be no more updates.
And yet, Flash seems to be everywhere.
No idea where you went, but try https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ If
you want the flashplayer for a system/browser other than the one you use
to get there, click on "Need Flash Player for a different computer?" and
select the one you need. Simple.

(Deleting the random rambling.)

TJ
Doug Laidlaw
2017-03-26 16:14:51 UTC
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Post by TJ
No idea where you went, but try https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ If
you want the flashplayer for a system/browser other than the one you use
to get there, click on "Need Flash Player for a different computer?" and
select the one you need. Simple.
I went to the normal download site, the above one.

From the latest Weekly bulletin:

Mga 5 has been updated:

Flash – 25.0.0.127 – multiple CVE fixes

That version is available now from Adobe. No messages this time.
Jim Beard
2017-03-27 13:36:03 UTC
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Post by Doug Laidlaw
Post by TJ
No idea where you went, but try https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ If
you want the flashplayer for a system/browser other than the one you
use to get there, click on "Need Flash Player for a different
computer?" and select the one you need. Simple.
I went to the normal download site, the above one.
Flash – 25.0.0.127 – multiple CVE fixes
That version is available now from Adobe. No messages this time.
Flash – 25.0.0.127 was pulled in and installed by my normal update.

urpmi --downloader aria2 --auto-update --auto --split-length=0 --download-
all --noclean $1
#all one line, of course;
#$1 in case i wish to add an argument

[***@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa |grep flash
flash-player-plugin-25.0.0.127-1.mga5.nonfree
[***@localhost ~]$

Cheers!

jim b.
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