Mageia 9

[Doug Laidlaw]

I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.

[Bit Twister]

Post by Doug Laidlaw
I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.

And mirrors are getting new alpha1 isos, for example See:
https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/iso/cauldron/

[David W. Hodgins]

Post by Bit Twister

Post by Doug Laidlaw
I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.

https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mageia/iso/cauldron/

Also available from https://www.mageia.org/en-gb/downloads/alternative/#Cauldron

Regards, Dave Hodgins

[Doug Laidlaw]

Post by David W. Hodgins
Also available from
https://www.mageia.org/en-gb/downloads/alternative/#Cauldron
Regards, Dave Hodgins

That is where I expected to find it. The one in LinuxTracker was
probably put there by a user.

[TJ]

Post by Doug Laidlaw
I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.

You can also get it here:

https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/

Remember, it's an alpha, so bugs are expected. That's the main reason
for the release - to identify bugs we don't know about yet.

TJ

[Doug Laidlaw]

Post by Doug Laidlaw
I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.

 https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/
Remember, it's an alpha, so bugs are expected. That's the main reason
for the release - to identify bugs we don't know about yet.
TJ

Understood. I noticed that on the mirrors, there seem to be liveCDs AND
normal ISOs.

[David W. Hodgins]

Post by Doug Laidlaw

Post by TJ

Post by Doug Laidlaw
I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.

https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/
Remember, it's an alpha, so bugs are expected. That's the main reason
for the release - to identify bugs we don't know about yet.
TJ

Understood. I noticed that on the mirrors, there seem to be liveCDs AND
normal ISOs.

https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/ has classic and live too.

The live are dvd as they are too large for a cd. The only iso that can go
on a cd are the network iso images.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

[Daniel65]

On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 16:03:33 -0500, Doug Laidlaw

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Understood.  I noticed that on the mirrors, there seem to be liveCDs AND
normal  ISOs.

https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/ has classic and live too.
The live are dvd as they are too large for a cd. The only iso that can go
on a cd are the network iso images.
Regards, Dave Hodgins

Dave, do you guys have any idea when the 9.0 Final might be available??

The New Year, maybe, or Easter'ish??

[David W. Hodgins]

Post by Daniel65
Dave, do you guys have any idea when the 9.0 Final might be available??
The New Year, maybe, or Easter'ish??

The schedule will be reviewed once we have a better idea how many problems
are found with the first alpha and how serious they are.

Off hand I expect it will sometime in January or February, but it depends
a lot on what problems are found in alpha 1 testing.

Testing upgrades from Mageia 8 to 9 and getting any problems found fixed will
likely be a lot of the time needed based on past experience.

There are still around 350 packages from Mageia 8 that are failing to build on
Mageia 9 that either have to be fixed or dropped.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

[Daniel65]

On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 23:25:03 -0500, Daniel65

Post by Daniel65
Dave, do you guys have any idea when the 9.0 Final might be
available?? The New Year, maybe, or Easter'ish??

The schedule will be reviewed once we have a better idea how many
problems are found with the first alpha and how serious they are.

Understood.

Off hand I expect it will sometime in January or February, but it
depends a lot on what problems are found in alpha 1 testing.

Thank you very much!!

Testing upgrades from Mageia 8 to 9 and getting any problems found
fixed will likely be a lot of the time needed based on past
experience.
There are still around 350 packages from Mageia 8 that are failing to
build on Mageia 9 that either have to be fixed or dropped.
Regards, Dave Hodgins

Thank you.

[Doug Laidlaw]

On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 16:03:33 -0500, Doug Laidlaw

Post by Doug Laidlaw
I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.

  https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/
Remember, it's an alpha, so bugs are expected. That's the main reason
for the release - to identify bugs we don't know about yet.
TJ

Understood.  I noticed that on the mirrors, there seem to be liveCDs AND
normal  ISOs.

https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/ has classic and live too.
The live are dvd as they are too large for a cd. The only iso that can go
on a cd are the network iso images.
Regards, Dave Hodgins

Yes, they are about 4.7 GiB, but there were two items that seemed to be
normal ISOs. KDE is still trying to be as repulsive as possible.
Unlike Windows, there is no way they can force me to use it.

[Bit Twister]

Post by Doug Laidlaw

On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 16:03:33 -0500, Doug Laidlaw

Post by Doug Laidlaw
I see that a LiveCD of Mageia 9 alpha1 is available on LinuxTracker.

  https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/
Remember, it's an alpha, so bugs are expected. That's the main reason
for the release - to identify bugs we don't know about yet.
TJ

Understood.  I noticed that on the mirrors, there seem to be liveCDs AND
normal  ISOs.

https://www.mageia.org/en/downloads/prerelease/ has classic and live too.
The live are dvd as they are too large for a cd. The only iso that can go
on a cd are the network iso images.
Regards, Dave Hodgins

Yes, they are about 4.7 GiB, but there were two items that seemed to be
normal ISOs. KDE is still trying to be as repulsive as possible.
Unlike Windows, there is no way they can force me to use it.

And if you want the newest and improvedest net install images qthere is
https://mirrors.kernel.org/mageia/distrib/9/x86_64/install/images/

[TJ]

Post by Doug Laidlaw
Yes, they are about 4.7 GiB, but there were two items that seemed to be
normal ISOs.  KDE is still trying to be as repulsive as possible. Unlike
Windows, there is no way they can force me to use it.

I asked the developer that puts the isos together about how the size of
the Lives has grown, and he told me much of that is coming from the
"nonfree" firmware needed for hardware, both new and older, to function
with them in Live mode. In particular he blamed new firmware from
nVidia, but that's not the only culprit.

As for Plasma, well, to each his own. I still like it with Mageia 8, but
that may be because I prefer to make the effort to learn how to work
with it than to make the effort to learn how to like Xfce. I dislike
Gnome with a passion, though some Gnome apps are OK.

Or maybe it's because I've been using KDE/Plasma since starting Linux
with Mandrake over 20 years ago, and I'm just used to it.

TJ

[Bit Twister]

Post by TJ
As for Plasma, well, to each his own. I still like it with Mageia 8, but
that may be because I prefer to make the effort to learn how to work
with it than to make the effort to learn how to like Xfce. I dislike
Gnome with a passion, though some Gnome apps are OK.

Yep, got tired of plasma buld and slow speed and switched to Xfce and
made it look/feel like the older kde. Only ting I miss is the holiday
schedule in the clock/calendar app.

Using geany as my file editor.

[William Unruh]

Post by Bit Twister

Post by TJ
As for Plasma, well, to each his own. I still like it with Mageia 8, but
that may be because I prefer to make the effort to learn how to work
with it than to make the effort to learn how to like Xfce. I dislike
Gnome with a passion, though some Gnome apps are OK.

Yep, got tired of plasma buld and slow speed and switched to Xfce and
made it look/feel like the older kde. Only ting I miss is the holiday
schedule in the clock/calendar app.
Using geany as my file editor.

Still using vi (vim) since I am constantly editing stuff on machines
which are remote from me (eg this note is being composed on one 4000km
away) and X is just horrendously slow over the net.
Why vi? Because I learned it first and do not have the time to
waste learning, say, emacs, is probably the reason.

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by TJ

Post by Doug Laidlaw
Yes, they are about 4.7 GiB, but there were two items that seemed to
be normal ISOs.  KDE is still trying to be as repulsive as possible.
Unlike Windows, there is no way they can force me to use it.

I asked the developer that puts the isos together about how the size of
the Lives has grown, and he told me much of that is coming from the
"nonfree" firmware needed for hardware, both new and older, to function
with them in Live mode. In particular he blamed new firmware from
nVidia, but that's not the only culprit.
As for Plasma, well, to each his own. I still like it with Mageia 8, but
that may be because I prefer to make the effort to learn how to work
with it than to make the effort to learn how to like Xfce. I dislike
Gnome with a passion, though some Gnome apps are OK.
Or maybe it's because I've been using KDE/Plasma since starting Linux
with Mandrake over 20 years ago, and I'm just used to it.
TJ

While I was using Mandriva in one of the good years I tried Gnome 2.4
and it was ok but the tools were not as reliable as those
under KDE 3.5.x. I have tried to help people with Gnome after 3.2 and
it was very difficult for me to use. I am currently happy with KDE's
Plasma 5.26.3 on my PCLinuxOS.

bliss

[Gilberto F da Silva]

Post by TJ

Post by Doug Laidlaw
Yes, they are about 4.7 GiB, but there were two items that seemed to
be normal ISOs.  KDE is still trying to be as repulsive as possible.
Unlike Windows, there is no way they can force me to use it.

I asked the developer that puts the isos together about how the size
of the Lives has grown, and he told me much of that is coming from the
"nonfree" firmware needed for hardware, both new and older, to
function with them in Live mode. In particular he blamed new firmware
from nVidia, but that's not the only culprit.
As for Plasma, well, to each his own. I still like it with Mageia 8,
but that may be because I prefer to make the effort to learn how to
work with it than to make the effort to learn how to like Xfce. I
dislike Gnome with a passion, though some Gnome apps are OK.
Or maybe it's because I've been using KDE/Plasma since starting Linux
with Mandrake over 20 years ago, and I'm just used to it.
TJ

    While I was using Mandriva in one of the good years I tried Gnome
2.4 and it was ok but the tools were not as reliable as those
under KDE 3.5.x.  I have tried to help people with Gnome after 3.2 and
it was very difficult for me to use.  I am currently happy with KDE's
Plasma 5.26.3 on my PCLinuxOS.
    bliss

I think Linux has a lot of graphic interfaces is not an advantage. On
the contrary, there are numerous discussions about which one would be
best. A discussion almost as useless as knowing the sex of angels.