anybody find Thunderbird obscure

[faeychild]

I lost my setup some days ago some days ago. NO PANIC

Just futzed around in the spare time with the config.
round and round and round through preferences and account settings

I have lost count of how many time I tried to find a password entry
field [there isn't one]

Only the news.september-eternal help newsgroups showed up in the
subscribe dialog. It suggested all that I had already done


I eventually saw that I had a period instead of dash between september
and eternal in the server name

The error was enough to download only the eternal september files but no
newsgroups..
And that has been my bear-pit for a week :-)

[Herman Viaene]

Post by faeychild
I lost my setup some days ago some days ago. NO PANIC
Just futzed around in the spare time with the config.
round and round and round through preferences and account settings
I have lost count of how many time I tried to find a password entry
field [there isn't one]
Only the news.september-eternal help newsgroups showed up in the
subscribe dialog. It suggested all that I had already done
I eventually saw that I had a period instead of dash between september
and eternal in the server name
The error was enough to download only the eternal september files but no
newsgroups..
And that has been my bear-pit for a week :-)

I could recommend making a backup every so often

Herman Viaene

[faeychild]

Post by Herman Viaene
I could recommend making a backup every so often
Herman Viaene

Yes. I should and I have.

I was using the Thunderbird files from Mag 7 copied to Mag 8 But the
slight difference was causing the Preferences tab to open as a default
layout.

Just a bit irritating so I removed the config files and started again
and spent a week in the rabbit hole.

It's fine now

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by faeychild

Post by Herman Viaene
I could recommend making a backup every so often
Herman Viaene

Yes. I should and I have.
I was using the Thunderbird files from Mag 7 copied to Mag 8  But the
slight difference was causing the Preferences tab to open as a default
layout.
Just a bit irritating so I removed the config files and started again
and spent a week in the rabbit hole.
It's fine now

An alternative to backing up is to change the name of the
/home/user/.thunderbird directory, then new "thundebird " change new
thunderbird to somethine else and change the name of the one you have
been using back to .thunderbird. See how that works for you. Changing
names is
reversible in moments and if does not give the result you want then
you can copy files betwen the old and new .thunderbird directories

bliss - sneaky

[Bit Twister]

Post by faeychild

Post by Herman Viaene
I could recommend making a backup every so often
Herman Viaene

Yes. I should and I have.
I was using the Thunderbird files from Mag 7 copied to Mag 8 But the
slight difference was causing the Preferences tab to open as a default
layout.
Just a bit irritating so I removed the config files and started again
and spent a week in the rabbit hole.

I got tired of the new ~/.thunderbird/*default directories on each new release.
Started using claws-mail instead.

installed dovecot and using imap connection for all my
$ grep mail /etc/passwd | wc -l
7
email accounts.

Using hourly fetchmail cron jobs to pull down any email and a hourly
root cron job to give me a pop up xmessage when any account has any email
to read.

[Bobbie Sellers]

Post by faeychild
I lost my setup some days ago some days ago. NO PANIC
Just futzed around in the spare time with the config.
round and round and round  through preferences and account settings
I have lost count of how many time I tried to find a password entry
field  [there isn't one]

Yes there is a password entry field.
Do you have the Menu showing if not hit Ctrl+M,
Under Edit at the bottomchoose Settings and from that
chose Privacy & Security Scroll down a bit to get to the Password
section. Follow the simple directions.

Now if you are talking about password to mail accounts then
it will ask for it the first time you try to contact that address to
get or send mail - Same for News accounts.

Post by faeychild
Only the news.september-eternal help newsgroups  showed  up in the
subscribe dialog.  It suggested all that I had already done
 I eventually saw that I had a period instead of dash between september
and eternal in the server name
The error was enough to download only the eternal september files but no
newsgroups..
And that has been my bear-pit for a week  :-)

RFM or make lots of mistake like I do and have done to learn where
things are.

bliss - brought to you by the power and ease of PCLinuxOS
the Perfect Computer Linus Operating System(for me),
and a minor case of hypergraphia.

[faeychild]

    Now if you are talking about password to mail accounts then
it will ask for it the first time you try to contact that address to
get or send mail - Same for News accounts.

Yes that is the one. News accounts setup asked for everything except
password
Each developer has his own way I suppose

    RFM or make lots of mistake like I do and have done to learn where
things are.

I keep promising to read the Kdenlive tutorials to improve my editing.
I have been promising for years :-)

[TJ]

Post by faeychild

     Now if you are talking about password to mail accounts then
it will ask for it the first time you try to contact that address to
get or send mail - Same for News accounts.

Yes that is the one. News accounts setup asked for everything except
password
Each developer has his own way I suppose

When it comes to email, the provider sets a lot of it. I have gmail and
yahoo accounts, and neither of them will accept the simple password of
yesteryear. Gmail only recently, but yahoo for a few years.

They claim it's for security reasons, that the old-style simple password
isn't secure enough. In Thunderbird, they require 0Auth2 authentication
now.

TJ

[faeychild]

Post by TJ
They claim it's for security reasons, that the old-style simple password
isn't secure enough. In Thunderbird, they require 0Auth2 authentication
now.
TJ

Fortunately or not I only use Thunderbird for newsgroups and only this
one. Email is for the Browser

regards

[Daniel65]

Post by TJ
They claim it's for security reasons, that the old-style simple
password isn't secure enough. In Thunderbird, they require 0Auth2
authentication now.
TJ

 Fortunately or not I only use Thunderbird for newsgroups and only this
one.  Email is for the Browser
regards

"Email is for the Browser"??

Sure, you can do e-mail in the Browser (and I do for my Yahoo account!),
but I would have thought a Mail Client was for e-mail!! ;-)

[faeychild]

Post by Daniel65
"Email is for the Browser"??
Sure, you can do e-mail in the Browser (and I do for my Yahoo account!),
but I would have thought a Mail Client was for e-mail!! ;-)

Same here! Yahoo mail in the Browser
Back in the dark ages I used Kmail. can't remember which email, may
have been my old ISP. It was long ago and a galaxy far away.

[Aragorn]

Post by faeychild

Post by Daniel65
"Email is for the Browser"??
Sure, you can do e-mail in the Browser (and I do for my Yahoo
account!), but I would have thought a Mail Client was for e-mail!!
;-)

Same here! Yahoo mail in the Browser
Back in the dark ages I used Kmail. can't remember which email, may
have been my old ISP. It was long ago and a galaxy far away.

I have been using KMail ever since 2000, and I still am. Before that I
briefly used the email component of Netscape Navigator.

The only email accounts I have to access in a browser are the one for
the server of the domain I'm the administrator of — because the owner
of the domain doesn't even bother anymore — and occasionally one
of my GMail accounts, although my phone accesses that directly via the
built-in Android IMAP client.

Firing up a browser to read your email requires a deliberate effort,
which means that you might be missing out on important stuff if you
relent. Having a proper email client running in the background 24/7
does not, and you'll never miss out on anything.

Besides, it also consumes far less virtual memory than an email client,
and it's more secure, unless of course you're using a Microsoft email
client. But that's another matter. ;)

[Aragorn]

Besides, it also consumes far less virtual memory than -an email-
-client-

That should read "browser".

Sorry, still haven't had my dose of caffeine yet.

[Daniel65]

Post by Aragorn

Post by faeychild

Post by Daniel65
"Email is for the Browser"??
Sure, you can do e-mail in the Browser (and I do for my Yahoo
account!), but I would have thought a Mail Client was for e-mail!!
;-)

Same here! Yahoo mail in the Browser
Back in the dark ages I used Kmail. can't remember which email, may
have been my old ISP. It was long ago and a galaxy far away.

I have been using KMail ever since 2000, and I still am. Before that I
briefly used the email component of Netscape Navigator.

Picky!! Picky!! I know but Netscape Navigator was a Browser ONLY until
about Version 3.0 when it changed to Netscape Communicator which handled
e-mail as well!!

[Aragorn]

Post by Daniel65

Post by Aragorn

Post by faeychild

Post by Daniel65
"Email is for the Browser"??
Sure, you can do e-mail in the Browser (and I do for my Yahoo
account!), but I would have thought a Mail Client was for e-mail!!
;-)

Same here! Yahoo mail in the Browser
Back in the dark ages I used Kmail. can't remember which email,
may have been my old ISP. It was long ago and a galaxy far away.

I have been using KMail ever since 2000, and I still am. Before
that I briefly used the email component of Netscape Navigator.

Picky!! Picky!! I know but Netscape Navigator was a Browser ONLY
until about Version 3.0 when it changed to Netscape Communicator
which handled e-mail as well!!

Yes, Netscape Communicator, that was it — it's been so long that I
forgot its exact name. ;)

Anyway, apart from one snag in 2019 when the Akonadi database got
corrupted and I had to start configuring things all over again, KMail
works a treat, and it can handle multiple email accounts, as well as
that it also works with both POP3 and IMAP4.

Email was never meant to be accessed through a browser, although having
that option available is always a good thing for when you're forced to
use somebody else's own computer, or when you're away on vacation
with only a phone.

[TJ]

Post by TJ
They claim it's for security reasons, that the old-style simple
password isn't secure enough. In Thunderbird, they require 0Auth2
authentication now.
TJ

 Fortunately or not I only use Thunderbird for newsgroups and only this
one.  Email is for the Browser
regards

To each his own, I suppose. Back in olden days, when dinosaurs ruled the
Earth, climate change dictated that I give up my beloved Atari ST and
get a Windows PC like everybody else. I had only had text-based email on
the ST, in a program separate from the crude browser that was available.

On the advice of a trusted friend, I chose the Netscape side of the
Windows Browser War, and so have always used Thunderbird or one of its
ancestors for email and newsgroups. I see no reason to change now.

TJ

[faeychild]

Post by TJ
On the advice of a trusted friend, I chose the Netscape side of the
Windows Browser War, and so have always used Thunderbird or one of its
ancestors for email and newsgroups. I see no reason to change now.
TJ

When I gave away windows for OS/2, it ran Netscape quite well. I was
torn between it and Web Explorer