Not clear what mgaapplet-update-checker wants to say

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Markus Robert Kessler

2024-03-17 07:12:45 UTC

Hi all,

usually I use mcc to update installed packages.

Installed is:

$ uname -a
Linux linuxnb1 6.6.18-desktop-1.mga9 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Feb 24
00:23:52 UTC 2024 i686 GNU/Linux

When I do a manual mgaapplet-update-checker, then I get something like
this:

$ mgaapplet-update-checker
Ignore the following Glib::Object::Introspection & Gtk3 warnings
Subroutine Gtk3::main redefined at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/Gtk3.pm
line 539.
getting exclusive lock on urpmi
unlocking urpmi database
medium "Core Updates" is up-to-date
medium "Nonfree Updates" is up-to-date
medium "Tainted Updates" is up-to-date
using mirror https://mirror2.tuxinator.org/mageia/distrib/9/i586
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Release/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Updates/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Backports/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Release/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Updates/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Backports/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Release/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Updates/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Backports/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586

[...] and so on.

Does this mean something (wrong packages installed or so)?

Best regards,

Markus

Jim

2024-03-17 13:53:43 UTC

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Post by Markus Robert Kessler
Hi all,
usually I use mcc to update installed packages.
$ uname -a
Linux linuxnb1 6.6.18-desktop-1.mga9 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Feb 24
00:23:52 UTC 2024 i686 GNU/Linux
When I do a manual mgaapplet-update-checker, then I get something like
$ mgaapplet-update-checker
Ignore the following Glib::Object::Introspection & Gtk3 warnings
Subroutine Gtk3::main redefined at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/Gtk3.pm
line 539.
getting exclusive lock on urpmi
unlocking urpmi database
medium "Core Updates" is up-to-date
medium "Nonfree Updates" is up-to-date
medium "Tainted Updates" is up-to-date
using mirror https://mirror2.tuxinator.org/mageia/distrib/9/i586
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Release/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Updates/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Backports/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Release/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Updates/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Backports/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Release/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Updates/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Backports/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586
[...] and so on.
Does this mean something (wrong packages installed or so)?
Best regards,
Markus

Perhaps load mcc and looked at Configure media sources for
install and update ?

And then go to /etc/urpmi and look at the contents of
configuration files there ?

I speculate urpmi has instructions to look at a media
source in one place and in another has no instruction
to use or update the files listed for it.

Should cause no harm to just leave it as is.

Cheers!

jim b.

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2024-03-17 16:54:31 UTC

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The last several indicate that that kernels would be installed, rather
than updated. Mageia does not remove old kernels when updating to new
ones, as it does with "normal" updates. This is so the user can still
boot into one of those older kernels should the new one fail.

Older kernels must be removed manually, or with the Remove Old Kernels app.

The messages you quote are normal, and can be ignored.

TJ

Vincent Coen

2024-03-17 20:51:08 UTC

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Hello TJ!

Post by TJ
Older kernels must be removed manually, or with the Remove Old Kernels app.

What is that one, package/name etc ?

Vincent

Markus Robert Kessler

2024-03-17 21:28:35 UTC

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Post by Vincent Coen
Hello TJ!

Post by TJ
Older kernels must be removed manually, or with the Remove Old Kernels app.

What is that one, package/name etc ?
Vincent

Hi,

looks as if
rpm -qi bootloader-utils
can do this.

Best regards,

Markus

2024-03-17 21:39:39 UTC

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Post by Vincent Coen
Hello TJ!

Post by TJ
Older kernels must be removed manually, or with the Remove Old Kernels app.

What is that one, package/name etc ?
Vincent

This will shock you: "remove-old-kernels" is the package name. It's new
for Mageia 9. Be sure to RTFM. (man rok)

The default is to remove all but the last three kernels of each flavor
(desktop, server, linus), but can be customized. The default is to run
weekly, but it can be run manually, as well.

TJ

Vincent Coen

2024-03-17 17:37:39 UTC

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Hello Markus!

Sunday March 17 2024 07:12, Markus Robert Kessler wrote to All:

No it just means that these are available with NO consideration as to you
hardware and system set up etc.

Just did the same with a long list of kernels and many old and not for X64
CPU's etc.

But running updater there is a stack of updates available so installed them
and rerun it with similar comments for server, desktop, linus etc.
The results are the same even when using prefix sudo to run it.

Ignore them as not helpful - just run the normal updater - MageiaUpdate.

Vince

Post by Markus Robert Kessler
Hi all,
usually I use mcc to update installed packages.
$ uname -a
Linux linuxnb1 6.6.18-desktop-1.mga9 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Feb 24
00:23:52 UTC 2024 i686 GNU/Linux
When I do a manual mgaapplet-update-checker, then I get something like
$ mgaapplet-update-checker
Ignore the following Glib::Object::Introspection & Gtk3 warnings
Subroutine Gtk3::main redefined at
/usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/Gtk3.pm line 539. getting exclusive lock
on urpmi unlocking urpmi database medium "Core Updates" is up-to-date
medium "Nonfree Updates" is up-to-date medium "Tainted Updates" is
up-to-date using mirror
https://mirror2.tuxinator.org/mageia/distrib/9/i586 examining
synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core
Release/synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file
[/var/lib/urpmi/Core Updates/synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis
file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Backports/ synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining
synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree
Release/ synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file
[/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Updates/ synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining
synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Backports/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Release/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Updates/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Backports/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586
[...] and so on.
Does this mean something (wrong packages installed or so)?
Best regards,
Markus

Vincent

Markus Robert Kessler

2024-03-17 18:45:00 UTC

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Hello Vincent, TJ, Jim!

Thanks a lot for clarifying this,
yes, good to know!

Best regards,

Markus

Post by Vincent Coen
Hello Markus!
No it just means that these are available with NO consideration as to
you hardware and system set up etc.
Just did the same with a long list of kernels and many old and not for
X64 CPU's etc.
But running updater there is a stack of updates available so installed
them and rerun it with similar comments for server, desktop, linus etc.
The results are the same even when using prefix sudo to run it.
Ignore them as not helpful - just run the normal updater - MageiaUpdate.
Vince

Post by Markus Robert Kessler
Hi all,
usually I use mcc to update installed packages.
$ uname -a Linux linuxnb1 6.6.18-desktop-1.mga9 #1 SMP
PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Feb 24
00:23:52 UTC 2024 i686 GNU/Linux
When I do a manual mgaapplet-update-checker, then I get something like
$ mgaapplet-update-checker Ignore the following
Glib::Object::Introspection & Gtk3 warnings Subroutine Gtk3::main
redefined at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/Gtk3.pm line 539. getting
exclusive lock on urpmi unlocking urpmi database medium "Core
Updates" is up-to-date medium "Nonfree Updates" is up-to-date medium
"Tainted Updates" is up-to-date using mirror
https://mirror2.tuxinator.org/mageia/distrib/9/i586 examining
synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Release/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core
Updates/synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file
[/var/lib/urpmi/Core Backports/ synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining
synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Release/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Updates/
synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree
Backports/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Release/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Updates/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Backports/
synthesis.hdlist.cz]
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586 would install instead of upgrade package
kernel- desktop586-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586 would install instead of
upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586 would install
instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
desktop586-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586 would install instead of upgrade
package kernel- desktop586-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586 would install instead
of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586 would
install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586 would install instead of upgrade package
kernel-desktop586- devel-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586 would install instead of
upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586 would
install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586-
devel-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586 would install instead of upgrade package
kernel-desktop586- devel-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586
[...] and so on.
Does this mean something (wrong packages installed or so)?
Best regards,
Markus

Vincent

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