[OT] dystopia and 2FA

[faeychild]

I've just been locked out of Yahoo due to 2FA. MY fault, partially due
to never updating the defunct backup email they had.
I have an new account with the cold embrace of Gmail/Google and now have
to update all email contacts, some of which also employ 2FA and want to
verify with the inaccessible Yahoo account. Circular argument proceeds

Annoying!. I have phone calls to several utilities today.

How much of our lives are funneled through an email service which can be
withdrawn at anytime. How much do they know about us? How easily could
they FUBAR all us.

Anyone running Windows has orders of magnitude greater.

Fortunately I'm getting on and don't expect to much longer enjoy this
brave new world, and I doubt that I will rage much against the dying of
the light

Recovery mode on

[faeychild]

On 3/10/24 08:10, faeychild wrote:


What I expected to be the major battle with my energy provider rolled
over quietly
Finding a human operator within the press 1 press 2 press 3 menu drama
required some subterfuge. And, of course, he easily updated my email
address.

I feel that it will become increasingly difficult when the A.I's replace
human entirely.

[Daniel70]

Post by faeychild
What I expected to be the major battle with my energy provider rolled
over quietly
Finding a human operator within the press 1 press 2 press 3 menu drama
required some subterfuge. And, of course, he easily updated my email
address.
I feel that it will become increasingly difficult when the A.I's replace
human entirely.

... and the problem with A.I., as I see it, would seem to be that it may
be 'A.' (Artificial) but I have great doubts about the 'I.' (Intelligence)!!

Maybe, one day in the future, 'A.I.' WILL be 'I'!!

[faeychild]

Post by Daniel70
... and the problem with A.I., as I see it, would seem to be that it may
be 'A.' (Artificial) but I have great doubts about the 'I.'
(Intelligence)!!
Maybe, one day in the future, 'A.I.' WILL be 'I'!!

Agree! I haven't bothered much with A.I.
How exactly does it work?
It can't be just a rote process. A huge list of possibilities with an
"If Then Do This But" script.

A dog is far more intelligent. Brilliant comparatively.

[William Unruh]

Post by faeychild

Post by Daniel70
... and the problem with A.I., as I see it, would seem to be that it may
be 'A.' (Artificial) but I have great doubts about the 'I.'
(Intelligence)!!
Maybe, one day in the future, 'A.I.' WILL be 'I'!!

Agree! I haven't bothered much with A.I.
How exactly does it work?
It can't be just a rote process. A huge list of possibilities with an

It is a "rote process" but also probablistic. It goes through the web,
and finds correlation between the sysmbols (letters, phonemes, sysmbols,
words....-- apparently Google now uses more than million of them)
including how far apart they are the texts it uses for training (so that
gives a 10^12 times distance matrix of occurances, then runs it though a
transfomation which reduces that to a manageable number then runs your
question throught that and makes up an answer by probabilistically
choosing sybmbols
Remember that training includes all of Trumps speaches which are on the
web.

It is a sociopath. It does not care about truth, or any other moral
quality you might happen to think about. (The people working in the area
call those sociopathic answers "halucinations" as if the program had a
concept of reality.

Post by faeychild
"If Then Do This But" script.
A dog is far more intelligent. Brilliant comparatively.

Depends on in what aspect.

[faeychild]

Post by William Unruh
It is a "rote process" but also probablistic. It goes through the web,
and finds correlation between the sysmbols (letters, phonemes, sysmbols,
words....-- apparently Google now uses more than million of them)
including how far apart they are the texts it uses for training (so that
gives a 10^12 times distance matrix of occurances, then runs it though a
transfomation which reduces that to a manageable number then runs your
question throught that and makes up an answer by probabilistically
choosing sybmbols
Remember that training includes all of Trumps speaches which are on the
web.

Don't dismiss the rest of our fearless leaders

Post by William Unruh
It is a sociopath. It does not care about truth, or any other moral quality

It's made in its creators image then.

I should/can just document/observe the train wreck, I suppose


Regards